Bush.

erinleonard, Of course I would like to see Bush defeated but I do not have faith in the American electoral system. With all the shenanigans going on in so many States and electronic voting machines that leave no audit trail ( manufactured by a Company owned by a Republican supporter) and an army of Republican polling station 'volunteers', who will challenge voters and delay voting, so that that democratic voters will get fed up and leave the queues to vote - I cannot see how Kerry will get a fair deal. It will be 2000 all over again. Apart from electoral fraud, too many American people are naive and parochial and frankly are just too afraid of their own shadows these days. Bush and his gang of neocons have made fear their main weapon and it is cowering the population. No wonder respect for America and Americans is at an all time low in the rest of the world and it is not redemmed simly because it is a military superpower. If anything this has opposite effect. The US appears as a giant bully and not much more. Message was edited by: brolly2_1

Bush...but it will not be official untill sometime around Christmas

Bush, but it will be close close close. And I'll put $20 bucks on it, to benefit Children's Leukemia Research Foundation -- but I'll send the check, win or lose.

For those who have taken the bet, the Charities you name will thank you. For the Chicken ---- who have plenty to say usually but who have failed to put their money where their mouths are shame on you ! So come on, name the ticket and sign the cheque !!

The oligarchy

Well, it's looking pretty much like Osama-baby has weighed in on Bush's side. The polls are saying Bush 50%, Kerry 44% since the video was released. Osama is much more influential with the voters than Arnie. Yet again, Bush is getting his way because of his influential friends ... :)

Put your money where your mouth is Capfka. Name the Charity and the amount - no more than $25.

Stop being a wimp Capfka !! Call it. No one else knows either, so lets have a name. Give a name and, as you seem to be a special case, you can allocate one of your payments to one of your charities !

Sorry, the Electoral College system aside (which comes pretty low down the scale of democratic systems...), the attempt to write off quite systematic abuse as a scalar anomally is wrong, and in addition not at all comforting to the thousands who were dispossessed of their votes in the last election. Let's not forget too that, like him or not, Gore actually won (from what we know of the post-election analysis) - the Supreme Court however decided not to continue the recount... My £25, if Bush does not win (which he will, especially after that suspiciously well-timed intervention from Bin Laden), will go to Medecins San Frontiers, the fearless French (yes, those words can go together) charity, who try their best to help clean up the mess that all these childish 'leaders' (or all creeds) inflict upon the world.

I have the Washington Post's "ticker" up on my desktop both at home and at work. Hopefully by morning (GMT) the results from the non-contentious states will be in. I'm picking Bush in any contest that boils down to Florida, for obvious reasons. Corruption will ensure that he gets it. If it's Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio or any of the rest, I don't know. But despite the protestations of the US supporters of harrassing people at polling stations - which, as it turns out, is punishable by imprisonment here in Britain - the result will still be a "fix", although whose is up in the air. Kerry if it's Iowa. Bush if it's Ohio or Wisconsin. Why the hell can't you people just vote directly for the candidates? That would be a much truer form of democracy (as practised by most of the rest of us) as David Wood has suggested.