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# Zero, not horse manure!
- URL: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/18360/
- Published: 2005-05-03T17:05:14.000Z
- Updated: 2019-02-14T22:33:15.000Z
- Author: openDemocracy Supporters
- Tags: #en, #Migrated, #Import 2026-04-09 18:15

Zero? Schmero! It's already here, says British architect [Bill Dunster](http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-6-129-2470.jsp) in the latest article in this debate on the politics of climate change.

As they used to say: the future is already here, it's just not evenly spread out.

With Bill's help and yours, openDemocracy can build the [Future City](http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-6-129-2445.jsp). Join the [forum](http://www.opendemocracy.net/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=179&threadID=44229&tstart=0) with your ideas, and don't believe [those](http://www.opendemocracy.net/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=179&threadID=44229&messageID=61147#61147) who say it's just a load of horsexxxx. They're talking xxxxocks.

And if zero carbon seems a step to far, at least to begin with, check out the [Kyoto World Cities 2020 challenge](http://kyotocities.org/?ref=opendemocracy.net).

Caspar Henderson