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# Anti-semitism, Israel and nationalism, part 1/3
- URL: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/anti-semitism-israel-and-nationalism-part-13/
- Published: 2013-03-29T12:03:55.000Z
- Updated: 2026-04-23T01:24:06.000Z
- Description: Antony Lerman in conversation with Tony Curzon Price around Lerman's political memoir, The Making and Unmaking of a Zionist - A personal and political journey. Part 1, 37 mins.
- Author: Tony Curzon Price
- Tags: Europe, #Migrated, Israel & Palestine, United Kingdom, Frontline Insights, Civil Society, openglobalrights-openpage-blog, #en, #Import 2026-04-09 17:36, #appended-excerpt

*A nationalist development can have two possible consequences. Either a healthy reaction will set in that will overcome the danger heralded by nationalism, and also nationalism itself, which has now fulfilled its purpose - or nationalism will establish itself as the permanent principle: in other words it will exceed its function, pass beyond its proper bounds and with overemphasised consciousness displace the spontaneous life of the nation. Unless some force arises to oppose this process it may well be the beginning of the downfall of the people, a downfall dyed in the colours of nationalism.*

Martin Buber, Nationalism, 1921

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Antony Lerman in conversation with Tony Curzon Price around Lerman's political memoir, [The Making and Unmaking of a Zionist - A personal and political journey](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Unmaking-Zionist-Personal-Political/dp/0745332765?ref=opendemocracy.net). Part 1, 37 mins.