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# Welsh Civil Service Blogger goes to Industrial Tribunal Today
- URL: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dooced-welsh-civil-service-blogger-christopher-glamorgan-goes-to-industrial-tribun/
- Published: 2008-07-11T14:07:21.000Z
- Updated: 2019-02-14T22:41:09.000Z
- Author: Matt Wardman
- Tags: #en, #Migrated, #Import 2026-04-09 18:41

**Matt Wardman (**[**Wardman Wire**](http://www.mattwardman.com/?ref=opendemocracy.net)**):** Miss Wagstaff is reporting that the Welsh blogger, and Welsh Assembly Government employee, [Christopher Glamorganshire](http://glamorganshire.blogspot.com/?ref=opendemocracy.net), is going to an Industrial Tribunal after being sacked for blogging during the autumn of 2007\. The tribunal is today.

The greatest value that I can add to this is an English perspective, and one from involvement in the debate that lead to the development of a set of [Principles for Online Participation for Civil Servants](http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/iam/codes/social%5Fmedia/participation.asp?ref=opendemocracy.net). These are my initial thoughts about a significant cultural divide between "us" and "them".

**In Wales they sack Bloggers**

The most intriguing and important point is how the "Welsh Civil Service Code" has lead to Christopher Glamorganshire being "dismissed for activities related to the Glamorganshire Blog that contravened the Civil Service Code".

**In England they work with them**  

while the English Civil Service Code is now complemented by the set of principles mentioned above, which were developed after an English Civil Servant blogger ([Civil Serf](http://civilserf.blog.co.uk/?ref=opendemocracy.net)) caused a debate online among bloggers [lead by a Government Minister](http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/?p=1901&ref=opendemocracy.net).

**...using an almost Identical Civil Service Code**

This is the thing I don't get. If you compare the Welsh Civil Service Code with the British Civil Service Code, they are like two peas in a pod.

- The Welsh Civil Service page (in English) is [here](http://new.wales.gov.uk/about/career%5Fopportunities/civilservicecode/?lang=en&ref=opendemocracy.net) on the Assembly Goverment's site. The Welsh Civil Service is [here](http://new.wales.gov.uk/humanresources/publications/civilservicecode/codee.pdf?lang=en&ref=opendemocracy.net) as a PDF (70k) - [{SmartUpload}local copy](http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007-wales-civil-servant-code-of-conduct.pdf?ref=opendemocracy.net).
- The English Civil Service Code is [here](http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/iam/codes/cscode/index.asp?ref=opendemocracy.net) (published 6th June 2006). There is a [PDF version](http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/documents/pdf/cscode/cs%5Fcode.pdf?ref=opendemocracy.net) (40k) - [{SmartUpload}local copy](http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006-civil-service-code.pdf?ref=opendemocracy.net).

Try comparing the two Civil Service Codes yourself. 

*More at the* [*Wardman Wire*](http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/07/11/dooced-welsh-civil-service-blogger-goes-to-industrial-tribunal-today/?ref=opendemocracy.net)*.*