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Berlusconi’s scandal, Italy’s tragedy

Geoff Andrews, 29 - 06 - 2009

The Italian prime minister's corrosion of the country’s public life means that even his departure would offer Italy no clear route to renewal, says Geoff Andrews.


Silvio Berlusconi, the most successful populist politician of modern times, has long mastered the art of appealing over the heads of professional politicians to reach the "bellies" rather than the "brains" of ordinary Italians. In his three periods as Italy's prime minister (May 1994-January 1995, June 2001-May 2006, and from May 2008) he has seen off seven centre-left leaders to remain the dominant figure in Italy's political landscape. Berlusconi's ability to dominate the media and turn even critical attention to his advantage have been invaluable assets in this regard.

Could this pattern of domination now be changing? Is Berlusconi's long hegemony approaching its end? The most recent flurry of stories and scandals - concerning his relations with young women, beginning with Noemi Letizia, his 18-year-old friend from Naples who calls him "Papi" - are certainly among the most damaging he has faced; and there is great significance in the fact that he is no longer in control of events.

Among openDemocracy's articles on Italy's politics:

Giovanni Bachelet et al, A manifesto from Italy (30 May 2002)

Pierleone Ottolenghi, "Dear Mr Bush!"(27 February 2006)

Sarah Pozzoli & Mario Rossi, "The fall and rise of Silvio Berlusconi" (21 April 2005)

Sarah Pozzoli, "Who rules Italy?" (23 June 2005)

Marco Niada, "Italy's tragic democracy" (23 August 2005)

Marco Niada, "Is Silvio Berlusconi losing the plot?" (23 March 2006)

Marco Brazzoduro, "Italy's choice: risk from Roma vs Roma at risk" (24 June 2008)

But there is a sense in which even Silvio Berlusconi's own fate has already become a secondary factor in what is happening. For the series of events which have engulfed the 72-year-old premier and which now dominate large sections of the press inside and outside Italy can no longer be reduced - if they ever could - to a question of his own personal behaviour. Rather, Berlusconi's crisis has become the peculiar tragedy of modern Italy itself.

The media-political storm

Silvio Berlusconi has attracted negative media coverage in the past. What looks different this time is that the near-daily exposures from young women, alleging that he paid for sex, reveal a web of deceit at the heart of Italian politics. True, the private and the public domains have - the prime minister's denials to the contrary - rarely been distinct in his career. What recent events reveal most vividly is the extent to which Silvio Berlusconi's own values have become embedded in Italian public life.

The manner of Berlusconi's contemptuous response to the claims from various women -  that he paid for sex with them, or offered them jobs for his TV network or as candidates for his party - reveals a lack of transparency in the Italian political system as well as threats to media freedom that would be unacceptable in any other western democracy. Berlusconi ignored these claims for several weeks, and refused to answer any of the questions posed to him (including in open Democracy - see "Silvio Berlusconi: ten more questions" [5 June 2009] and "Silvio Berlusconi: answers, please" [9 June 2009]).

It was typical that the prime minister should then ignore normal channels of democratic accountability and turn to the gossip magazine, Chi, which he owns, to state his denials. His behaviour suggests that in Italy politics has been replaced by the display of personal omnipotence. How much further will Italy's decrepit political culture and degenerate body-politic be allowed to sink?

Italy hosts the Group of Eight (G8) summit in L'Aquila on 8-10 July 2009, and the performance of the Italian premier will be the primary focus. Berlusconi is more isolated than ever within the international community; he counts only the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, as a close ally. The signs that his diminishing status is further tarnishing Italy's own reputation are widespread, from the embarrassed responses of other leaders to his behaviour to the effort by a group of academics to persuade the G8 "first ladies" to boycott the L'Aquila summit. Even his relations with the Catholic church are strained: after a brief rapprochement when he tried to push through a decree to keep Eluana Englaro alive, his latest indiscretions have caused a series of leading clergy to reproach him (Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco of Genoa pointedly condemned "men drunk on a delirium of their own greatness...").

The crisis goes deeper than his relations with young women. On 21 May 2009, Berlusconi described, a court ruled that he had the Italian parliament as "useless", saying that only 100 MPs were necessary to get the business done and contrasting legislators unfavourably with businessmen. In February 2009bribed the British lawyer David Mills to provide false testimony, even as he himself is protected from prosecution by parliamentary-immunity legislation passed by his own government. Berlusconi has offered no explanation for this. The pattern here of an absence of any commitment to democratic accountability by the country's elected leader has led La Repubblica - which has done an exemplary job in pursuing the truth of Berlusconi's actions - to issue a further ten questions for him to answer (see "Le dieci domande mai poste al Cavaliere" [14 May 2009] and "Le dieci nuove domande al Cavaliere" [La Repubblica, 26 June 2009].

At the same time, the government's own attitudes to the media its does not control are problematic. Berlusconi has urged companies not to advertise in the weekly L'Espresso (a publication from the same media group as La Repubblica). His minister for culture and close ally Sandro Bondi has described La Repubblica as a "threat to democracy" - an extraordinary way to characterise the normal functioning of a newspaper in a free society. In addition, the director of the public broadcaster RAI - part of Berlusconi's media empire - has declined to broadcast details of the claims against Berlusconi (something equivalent to the BBC refusing to cover the parliamentary-expenses scandal in Britain).

Berlusconi and after

Italy is a very divided country, and the adverse international press coverage of its leader - even now - influences only part of the population. Yet, what it has created is a climate of shame and embarrassment amongst Italians within and beyond Italy; that their identity is now bound up with the persona of Silvio Berlusconi. There is growing recognition that things cannot continue as they are. As foreign press criticism has increased, more Italians have been stirred to vent their anger and to call on allies in the west to continue their investigations.

Indeed, some of Silvio Berlusconi's closest allies have suggested to Guy Dinmore, Rome correspondent for the Financial Times, that they are preparing for life without him (see Berlusconi whispers grow louder", Financial Times, 25 June 2009). They are clearly very worried where the current web of dubious and perhaps criminal actions will lead.

Giuliano Ferrara, editor of Il Foglio and one of Berlusconi's most astute intellectual allies, has warned that Italy could have another "24 July" on its hands; a reference to the date in 1943 when Mussolini was dismissed by King Victor Emmanuel III and subsequently set up the Republic of Salo`. Once again, Italy finds itself with a leader obsessed with power, who, having positioned himself above the law and believing himself invincible, may be predisposed to bring others down with him in a last gesture of defiance.

These are worrying times for all who care about Italy, irrespective of their political views. Silvio Berlusconi will not resign easily. If he does relinquish power voluntarily or as the result of pressure, he will lose parliamentary immunity and could face further prosecution. There is no obvious successor from his party who has wide appeal. Yet the opposition remains very weak. There is no prospect for much needed reforms to the Italian constitutional system and, so far, no sign of a popular groundswell for change.

The only political beneficiaries to date from Berlusconi's troubles have been the xenophobic Northern League, which performed well in Italy's elections to the European parliament on 6-7 June. The league can still prove an awkward government partner, as it did in December 1994 when the first Berlusconi government fell. The demise of Silvio Berlusconi's reign, if it is coming, could be protracted and painful; and it could leave Italy's long-term prospects remaining bleak. A tragedy indeed.


Geoff Andrews is staff tutor in politics at the Open University. He is the author of Not a Normal Country: Italy After Berlusconi (Pluto, 2005), published in Italian as Un Paese Anormale (effepilibri, 2007); and of The Slow Food Story: Politics and Pleasure (Pluto Press / McGill-Queen's, 2008). Geoff Andrews is also an associate editor of Soundings

His website is here

Among Geoff Andrews's articles on openDemocracy:

The life and death of Pier Paolo Pasolini (November 2005)

"Italy's election: no laughing matter" (1 February 2006)

"Berlusconi's bitter legacy" (29 March 2006)

"In search of a normal country" (6 April 2006)

"Italy between fear and hope" (11 April 2006)

"Romano Prodi's fragile centre" (27 February 2007)

"Walter Veltroni: Italy's man for all seasons" (3 July 2007)

"Italy: another false dawn" (22 October 2007)

"Italy's governing disorder" (31 January 2008)

"Italy: the ungovernable nation" (11 April 2008)

"Italy's hour of darkness" (17 April 2008)

"Roberto Saviano: an Italian dissident" (22 October 2008)

"Italy's creeping fascism" (19 February 2009)

"Silvio Berlusconi: ten more questions" (1 June 2009)

"Silvio Berlusconi: answers, please" (9 June 2009)

 

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La Repubblica  + dieci domande a Berlusconi (14 May 2009) + "Le dieci nuove domande al Cavaliere(26 June 2009)

Paul Ginsborg, Silvio Berlusconi: Television, Power, Patrimony (Verso, 2005)

Geoff Andrews, Not a Normal Country: Italy After Berlusconi (Pluto, 2005)

Christopher Duggan, The Force of Destiny: A History of Italy Since 1796 (Penguin, 2007)
 
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jenaeprona said:



Thu, 2009-08-27 06:02

It was typical that the prime minister should then ignore normal
channels of democratic accountability and turn to the gossip magazine, Chi, which he owns, to state his denials. His behaviour suggests that in Italy politics has been replaced by the display
of personal omnipotence. How much further will Italy's decrepit
political culture and degenerate body-politic be allowed to sink? - Which is the question on everyone's mind I suppose.

gmarini (not verified) said:



Wed, 2009-07-15 10:35

Some *Northern* Italians writing on this site are denying that the Lega Nord is xenophobic - they use as the example the black woman voted... they should tell the truth about what happened AFTER she was voted in... don't just tell half the story, silly Italians!!! They should tell of the massive oppositon by the LEGA NORD to her being elected...

Now look at the latest declaration by the Lega Nord, who form part of Berlusconi's government: advising Italians NOT TO RENT PROPERTY TO PEOPLE WHO COME FROM OUTSIDE EUROPE - what the Italians refer to as EXTRACOMMUNITARI (outside the European Community)!... They are so ignorant they have probably forgotten that the US is outside the European Community... and the Italians LOVE Americans... silly Italians think that civilisation and liberty exist in America... we are still at that stage of naivete in provincial Italy!!!

Yes - xenophobia, racism and fascism are alive and well in Italy. The G8 was an absolute disgrace and staged in l'Aquila for a sympathy vote - typically Italian way of behaving. Berlusconi's government, immediately after the earthquake, wanted to put on the *bella figura* pretending they had lots of money, and refusing help from the outside world. They didn't give a damn about the poor people of L'Aquila who are living in appalling conditions in the tents and who organised a PROTEST AGAINST G8, which, of course, was pretty much covered up by the government while they spent thousands on accommodation for the G8 *heads of state* and bringing around the *first* ladies on tours... what a pathetic vista... all while not maintaining their promises to Africa and while leaving their own people of L'Aquila to rot in those tents. Then they call it a success!!!!

That's Italy!!! The REAL Italy! Those who don't live in the country, don't bother defending it - I live here and this country truly STINKS!!!

Read the latest from Lega Nord - advising not to rent property to people from outside the EU... so that's not xenophobic???? Taken from l'Unita 14 July 2009:

il 'consiglio' dell'assessore leghista: 'mai affittare agli extracomunitari'

L'Italia della tolleranza zero ha un nuovo campione: un assessore leghista di piccolo centro del Varesotto, Gerenzano, guidato da una giunta monocolore del Carroccio. Sul bollettino ufficiale del Comune l'invito è scritto in modo pressante, e a suo modo convincente. Nel caso qualcuno volesse concedere case in affitto agli extracomunitari, scrive l'assessore alla sicurezza Cristiano Borghi, sappia che va contro il comune, la comunità e il comune sentire della popolazione, recando un danno gravissimo.

L'appello, riportato oggi su un grande quotidiano, dice questo: "Chi ama Gerenzano non vende e non affitta agli extracomunitari. Altrimenti avremo il paese invaso da stranieri e avremo sempre più paura a uscire di casa!". Il punto esclamativo è nel testo. L'appello è apparso sul numero di maggio di Filo diretto con i cittadini, il bollettino ufficiale del Comune, e la vicenda è stata segnalata all'Ufficio contro le discriminazioni razziali istituito presso il ministero delle Pari opportunità.

Istruttiva la motivazione dell'appello: "Questa amministrazione che guida il Comune ormai da diversi anni - scrive l'assessore alla sicurezza - non ha mai - e sottolineo mai - agevolato l'afflusso degli extracomunitari nel nostro paese". Vantandosi del fatto che la stessa amministrazione "non ha mai costruito con i soldi dei gerenzanesi case popolari, in quanto ai primi posti della graduatoria ci fossero sempre i soliti noti"; che "non abbiamo mai destinato terreni per la costruzione di moschee e destinato edifici come luoghi di culto agli extracomunitari di religione islamica"; che "i nomadi che arrivano e sostano all'interno del territorio comunale devono lasciare il paese entro 48 ore"; e che "non abbiamo mai favorito gli extracomunitari sotto il profilo dei contributi o dei sussidi economici".

Papi (not verified) said:



Tue, 2009-07-07 13:18

ITALIAN POLITICIANS

Here what Lega Nord’s deputy and group leader at the city of Milan Matteo Salvini sang before Lega’s meeting in Pontida (13rd june 2009)

“Matteo is group leader, Matteo is group leader
Smell what a stink, dogs also escape
Neapolitans are arriving
O cholera people, earthquake refugees
You never washed yourselves by soap”

Dura Lex (sed Lex) (not verified) said:



Sun, 2009-07-05 21:57

Papi made a decree because of which he is not prosecutable (Lodo Alfano).

Constitutional Court has to judge decree’s legitimacy.

One judge of Constitutional Court (Papi’s former Minister) invited Papi for dinner, before discussion about decree’s legitimacy.

Papi, his Justice Minister (Alfano) and an other judge of Constitutional Court were at dinner.

What a show, what a masterpiece of democracy and indipendence of authorities!

tit_tat (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 23:47

We know Mr. B is a sleazy guy, we don't care about his parties... we want him to answer more important questions: http://temi.repubblica.it/micromega-online/mafia-politica-e-affari-sette-domande-al-cavaliere/?com=5916#commenti

Sorry it's in italian.

Mr. Reds (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 10:40

How do you appreciate the narrative you live daily and now more than ever the relationship between you as an individual and what happens around you? You either read newspapers and watch TV or you ignore them altogether and do not give a damn about it: but by doing so you suffer other people's attempt to overpower you socially.
The fact that being the owner of the major media output gives you the chance to create this narrative and indeed "entertain" as many people as you need to, dupe them, form false myths, lie to them and so on; in a word manipulating people's minds.
Now Berlusconi is surrounding himself with "image-girls". Think about it: the meaning of the word is the core of the problem. Image, the form as opposed to content, void, vacuity for he sake of looking good, regardless.
This void is overwhelming him out of control and the fact that the ones rebelling are the very "image-girls" he despises so shamefully is so telling that, the moment he realizes the boundaries are too far away to keep them in check, by that time maybe it will be too late for him.

grif (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 10:36

I have lived in Italy the past 11 years and can tell you there is a huge propaganda machine at work by all of Berlusconi's media companies (he doesn't own the RAI but the government in power controls the public television channels).
Any time that he has one of his scandals he is always portrayed by them as a victim. Any time that he was on trial he was a victim. You hear all day everyday that he is being attacked by the law, the media he does not own, anyone who disagrees with him basically.
This has lead many Italians to sympathize with him and feel sorry for him. Add to that the fact that when David Mills was found guilty it was hardly on the news if at all the following days. And nothing was ever said about it again. Just the same about him telling companies not to invest in RCS (the company that owns la Reppublica and l'espresso). That was almost not even covered by any news agency.
Add to this the fact that there is really no functioning opposition party. This allows him to do anything he wants whenever he wants.
The divid in the Italians is very simple to understand. There are those Italians who only watch the 6-7 tv channels that you can get without sky and after all of the brainwashing defend him to no end.
Not to forget he has also been really good to the big companies. Cutting taxes and responsibilities to pay retirement benefits for employees. So they obviously are more than happy to keep him in office by not supporting anyone that would make him lose office.
Honestly I could go on and on... in the end it is really sad and embarrassing to have this man be the person who represents Italians to the rest of the world.

Lando Mauro (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 09:02

I sent a long comment but it seems that it was not "politically" correct! This is the way how democracy spelled in UK is showed!
Great!

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sltpla (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 05:59

Great article.
It could not explain more clearly the cult of personality behind Berlusconi and the fact that, sadly, many Italians bought into it for no apparent reason.
Berlusconi makes me ashamed of being Italian but the scariest thing is that the opposition is just as pathetic.
This is a confirmation that Italians are self centered and can not see themselves as a society and act like one.
It seems like Italians view themselves as individuals, living day by day.
It can't continue for very long.
Italians need to come to terms with the fact that they can not govern themselves, therefore should abdicate powers to a neutral, civilized country like Sweden, Norway or Finland, (which are light years ahead in honesty and transparency).

Lando Mauro (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 05:40

I am not English native, so my written language will not be that good. Sorry.
By the way, it is astonishing to read from NOT Italians so many judgements about Italian politics. Some words are true but some are completely false. It seems to me that people (overseas) think about Italy as corrupted, mafied and so on. Well, I am from North Italy, near Venice, I am sure there is not exepction even here about those ...ed things, but let me tell you a couple of things. First, I have the feeling that some "western powers" always don't like to see a strong Italy for some reason (it is always a matter of money, nothing related to ideology or whatever) and some people are paid to write so; Second, I read History from 30 years (it is my passion) and finally I can say that British Government during centuries had been an evil and much much much more fascist than Mussolini (can you find me an example of Dresda bombarment but from Mussolini? Shame on you, British people!). Third, I hope people have more interests and worries about scandals at home (see recent scandals of British Government) and not overseas because from a politically point of view I am sure NOT only Italians but any Government is corrupt in this world. The difference between Italians and other are basically simple: we live well with our lands and seas, we eat well with our workdwide known cuisine; we have the most beautiful cars; we have the most Art (over 60%) all around the world; we have Opera in Italian language listened from everyone around the world; we have the most variation of cheeses and wines (even France don't have such large choice). Moreover I would like to say: I prefer to live in a corrupt country like Italy instead to live in a country where the most famous museum (British Museum) is filled with stolen Arts from around the world, from a country where the weather is cloudy and raining, from a country where food is just horrible; from a country where life expectance is much lower than ours, from a country where exist the atomic bomb, from a country where freedom is just a word. I feel so sorry to tell to British people that not only Mussolini falt on 25th July (and not 24th as written in this article) but another 25th Jully (just two years later) another fascist falt: Winston Churchill. Did ever Bitish media and historians explained this coincidence to the British people? I think before to mention about Italian politics, there is much work to do cleaning up the BIGGEST scandal happened in UK during the WWII. May I give some possible answer on that scandal? Well, simply Winston Churchill was in contact with Mussolini by a secret agreement, the agreement was to let the Italian Army to do troubles in any war front line where the nazists operated (in fact just find out where Italian |Army have been sent during the WWII) with the goal to weaken the Hitler armies. It's not a case the only Italians didn't have a Norimberga style court as Germans and Japaneses had to afford. It's not a case that the corrispondences between Mussolini and Churchill had been stolen and sent to "someone" in Moscow just after the killing of Mussolini. It's not a case that the British secret intelligence had been sent to Italy to find out such secret documents which could have been a blow to the British Government. In fact, there is no official explanation why Churchill falt after the election. He was a winner in the war, so why? Simply, British Government and the media prepared his fall because they knew someone in Moscow found the proofs of the british dirty job during the war. That's why Churchill lost the elections: mass media didn't "help" him. It was decided to let him to be apart. How many people know this?
In few words I want to say that during History, British Government didn't behave in a very clean way and I am sure even British people know it. SO please, don't talk about Italians but look at YOUR country.
Lastly, in the article is written: "The only political beneficiaries to date from Berlusconi's troubles have been the xenophobic Northern League, which performed well in Italy's elections to the European parliament on 6-7 June." Well, I am an elector of Northern League and the word "xenophobic" is just wrong: the first "black" mayor of Italy is from Northern League. A woman from US. If this is called xenophony, it is welcome. Please update your article.
Ciao a tutti!

Perchè? (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 22:16

What's the point of this column?

Berlusconi was elected democratically in a democratic Country, that ain't the 3rd world. This leader still HAS the majority of preferences as the recent elections amply demonstrated. So what?

Do you guys think it should be normal for a leader to bail out because of the "alleged" and "supposed" accuses of some notorious lefty papers/web columns?

Do you think there's ANY chance of being impartial and credible when comparing Mussolini to the current prime minister of Italy?

Why don't you stop with this propaganda and why don't you stop whining about the current situation in Italy? Do Italians really want another leader? They will vote and decide for themselves when it's time.

Italy has one of the most prominent and best legal systems around that -without any doubt- has historically inspired the global juridical world. Who do you think you are to know what's better for a democratic Country? If there's someone guilty, the Italian legal system will spot it.

Please stop this cheap propaganda.

Nonio (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 21:24

Italy is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, you said it. Berlusconi is held in respect because he is exactly the way any Italian would like to be: chesty, shallow, impudent, trivial. Bribery, deceit, forgery for most of Italians are habits; they basically adore kitsch. Think about other personages whose actions and opinions influence(d) the country: Versacce, Tamaro, Briatore, Sophie Loren – just to name a few. Google them if you ignore who they are. Tasteless blokes, treated as if they were heroes.

solman (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 21:17

I read the article and sincerely I can't agree to most of your analisys.
I just want to say something regarding the concept that Lega is xenophobic, so people will understand that the whole article is rich of rhetoric and attacks to the prime minister that also President Napolitano (a comunist..) asked to stop.
I live in North east Italy ( it means for example companies like diesel, benetton, illy caffe, danieli, fincantieri, electrolux etc..) where values as family and job are principles absolute. Here lega obtained his best result, do you know why? because people of Lega do things and not only speak, listen to people, their problems, believe that the groving level of violence in towns is caused from irregular immigrants ( read the statistics of people in jail..). till 4/5 years ago you could leave open the door of your house, now neither an alarm is sufficient.
Maybe Berlusconi is not a "candid man" ( but latins say " chi e' senza peccato scagli la prima pietra...") but he works, ( look Naples, look Abruzzo, where are still growing new houses, or the passante of mestre) , his teams works as well as no other ministers did in the past years ( see Brunetta and the descending level of absenteism, or Zaia, in the agricolture, and so on).
I just want to say that before expressing comments on a person, on a State, maybe you have live in it, work everyday with people, understand why most of people vote for berlusconi and his "cricca", and maybe youll know why most of people don't vote for the left party ( please don't call them "progressisiti" because the progress is too far from them. Sorry for my not perfect english, but i hope you'll understand my point of view, an Italian, graduated manager from NE Italy, that has never voted Lega and voted also the left party....

solman (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 21:17

I read the article and sincerely I can't agree to most of your analisys.
I just want to say something regarding the concept that Lega is xenophobic, so people will understand that the whole article is rich of rhetoric and attacks to the prime minister that also President Napolitano (a comunist..) asked to stop.
I live in North east Italy ( it means for example companies like diesel, benetton, illy caffe, danieli, fincantieri, electrolux etc..) where values as family and job are principles absolute. Here lega obtained his best result, do you know why? because people of Lega do things and not only speak, listen to people, their problems, believe that the groving level of violence in towns is caused from irregular immigrants ( read the statistics of people in jail..). till 4/5 years ago you could leave open the door of your house, now neither an alarm is sufficient.
Maybe Berlusconi is not a "candid man" ( but latins say " chi e' senza peccato scagli la prima pietra...") but he works, ( look Naples, look Abruzzo, where are still growing new houses, or the passante of mestre) , his teams works as well as no other ministers did in the past years ( see Brunetta and the descending level of absenteism, or Zaia, in the agricolture, and so on).
I just want to say that before expressing comments on a person, on a State, maybe you have live in it, work everyday with people, understand why most of people vote for berlusconi and his "cricca", and maybe youll know why most of people don't vote for the left party ( please don't call them "progressisiti" because the progress is too far from them. Sorry for my not perfect english, but i hope you'll understand my point of view, an Italian, graduated manager from NE Italy, that has never voted Lega and voted also the left party....

Cristian12121212 (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 20:06

Not all the citizien are blind, but the problem is related to the media, no info are given to people, just 2/3 newpaper are enough "strong" to put pressure to Berlusconi. Television network are completely in his hands.
The only way to be informed for real is internet.
Internet is giving democracy even to Italy, like it's happening in Iran today.

Eleonora (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 18:21

Hello,
first of all, sorry for my bad English!!!
I'm Italian (now I live in Germany because of university) and I have the need to receive informations by foreign press, because, you know, in Italy it's not easy to be informed.
I like this article, especially this sentence: "Yet, what it has created is a climate of shame and embarrassment amongst Italians within and beyond Italy; that their identity is now bound up with the persona of Silvio Berlusconi."
It is really shameful for us... Well, I think that I can't talk for all the Italians. You ask yourself why the Italians voted him? I think that one part of them doesn't really understands what is going on in Italy; they read only the local press and probably have no idea of what European say and write about our country. Another part knows Italy's situation very well, but has a lot of economic advantages by having Berlusconi as prime minister, because, it's right, in Italy corruption is widespread. The last part of them is stupid, they think that Berlusconi's behaviour is really cool ("Yeah, 72-year-old man has sex with a little girl? Cool!") and they want to listen that there is no crisis, or better, they want to listen that Italy is special and that the crisis has hit all the world but Italy..
That's my opinion.
I hope that his "government" (his dictatorship?) will end soon.....

Berlinguer (not verified) said:



Fri, 2009-07-03 12:33

Why in the collective mind is Italy more readily absolved, than Germany, of its responsibility for the murder of millions due to racial laws introduced by the Fascists in 1938 under Mussolini? Do not let it happen on a second occasion... Berlusconi's Fascist Government yesterday re-introduced Racial Laws.

Details from l'Unita:

Ronde nere e conti in rosso
di Andrea Carugati

All’ora di pranzo sventolano i fazzoletti verdi dei senatori leghisti, che alzano indice e medio in segno di vittoria. Stavolta le bandiere della Serenissima sono rimaste a case, niente eccessi, non c’è bisogno di fare la faccia feroce. Il secondo piatto forte di questo primo anno di governo, dopo il federalismo, è arrivato in porto: 257 voti a favore, 124 contrari, tre astenuti, il ddl sicurezza, con le ronde e il reato di immigrazione clandestina, è legge dello Stato, come voleva Bobo Maroni, pacche sulle spalle con Calderoli e Zaia sui banchi del governo.

ITALIA IN DEFICIT, MA GASPARRI E' FELICE
Festa a ranghi ridotti, dunque, ma Gasparri ugualmente parla di «gioia» per l’approvazione del ddl, proprio nel giorno in cui i dati Istat certificano gli effetti rovinosi della crisi sull’economia italiana, con il profondo rosso dei conti pubblici e il rapporto deficit Pil che precipita ai livelli del 1999. «Catastrofisti», direbbe il premier, e infatti il Senato è già al lavoro sul ddl intercettazioni, che con la crisi non ha nulla a che vedere, ma al premier sta tanto a cuore, e la Lega ricambierà il favore, garantendo un’approvazione senza scossoni.

L’OPPOSIZIONE DICE NO
Nell’aula del Senato il clima è meno surriscaldato rispetto al voto finale alla Camera di metà maggio, quando Franceschini e Maroni incrociarono le spade. Sarà colpa del clima estivo, o forse dell’atmosfera congressuale che impegna i senatori del Pd. Quelli dell’Idv mostrano qualche sparuto cartello di protesta «I veri clandestini siete voi»,«Governo: clandestino del diritto», la Finocchiaro ricorda uno degli aspetti più crudeli del ddl, il rischio che la madri clandestine non possano registrare i neonati all’anagrafe. «C’è una forma di persecuzione verso i clandestini, molti dei quali lavorano nelle nostre case». L’Udc Gianpiero D’Alia si rivolge ai leghisti: «Dalle camicie nere alle camicie verdi,è questo il vostro salto di qualità?». Il numero uno del gruppo Pdl Gasparri si spertica a ricordare quanto «compatta» e «coesa» sia una maggioranza che è stata costretta a sei voti di fiducia, tre alla Camera e altri tre tra mercoledì e ieri a palazzo Madama. Per paura dei voti segreti, che per due volte avevano già impallinato uno dei bandieroni voluti dalla Lega, l’estensione a 180 della detenzione dei clandestini nei Cie. E infatti, rispetto ai primi due voti di fiducia di mercoledì, in cui i sì erano stati 164, ieri il terzo si è fermato a 161, e nel voto finale sono mancati all’appello altri 4 senatori.

MARONI E GLI SCRITTORI
E tuttavia Maroni è entusiasta, è lui il protagonista della battaglia sulla sicurezza, come Calderoli lo è stato per il federalismo fiscale. «Oggi completiamo un anno di lavoro», spiega ai microfoni, e annuncia, come aveva già fatto dal palco di Pontida, che il regolamento per le ronde «che è già sul mio tavolo», sarà il primo ad entrare in vigore. «la prossima settimana». Poi si «rammarica» per le «polemiche infondate» che «hanno spinto l’opposizione a votare contro anche ai provvedimenti antimafia voluti da Falcone». «L’opposizione ha perso un’occasione per stare dalla parte dei cittadini, ha fatto un grave errore». Poi si rivolge agli scrittori, da Camilleri a Fo e Tabucchi, che hanno scritto una lettera aperta all’Europa per denunciare i rischi del ddl, a partire dal divieto di «matrimoni misti». «Risponderò a tutti loro- dice Maroni-, Parlano di cose che non esistono, come il divieto per i matrimoni. Si tratta di falsità diffuse da chi non ha letto il provvedimento». Sui distinguo di Fini, Maroni tace: «Non commento». Nel bene nel male, al centro della scena ci sono solo i leghisti. E infatti Berlusconi (assente in aula) nel pomeriggio si affretta a mettere il cappello sull’operazione. «Questa legge è fortemente voluta dall’intero governo, soprattutto dal presidente del Consiglio». Peccato che in marzo avesse detto: «Io non sento l’esigenza delle ronde come la sente la Lega. Non possono volere sempre tutto...».

democracy does not exist in Italy (not verified) said:



Thu, 2009-07-02 19:35

It's time to expel Italians from European countries... Italians treat foreigners like shit with their undemocratic xenophobic laws, instigated by Berlusconi and Bossi - two fascists who are running a country which is out of control. It's time for Italians to taste their own medicine. Boycott all Italian produce, Boycott Italian tourism, implement sanctions against the country which disobeys European regulations on human rights.

rosolino said:



Thu, 2009-07-02 11:56

In this great article there is just a little mistake when it quotes Giuliano Ferrara.
The critical date is July 25 1943 (not July 24), when Mussolini was overthrown by the Gran Consiglio del Fascimo (Fascism High Council) and then had to resign.

Arrivederci!

Papi (not verified) said:



Wed, 2009-07-01 23:42

Pasolini understood more than 30 years ago that Italians were diverting into a vulgar way of life dominated by television and based first of all on individualism. Such a situation is unusual in other european countries or, anyway, less evident.

For understanding this you have to consider that Italians are not a people: in Italy the spirit of national unit was never created. Neither a really democratic state was created post WW II (the substratum of “democratic” state’s apparatus was made by fascists: Italy had not its Norimberga, according to Allies will).

trimmerb1234 said:



Wed, 2009-07-01 20:31

Geof Andrews gives an overview and update but missing is any insight into the minds of those who seem to consistently re-elect Berlusconi. What do they say? Why do they vote for him? Do they care about Italy's reputation or is the rest of Europe wrong and Italy right? Do they dread dullness in politicians?  Does he get them to support him against their better judgement?  Do his policies negatively affect some who even so still vote for him?   The views of those who abhor him is a side issue when a majority keeps voting him in.

panta (not verified) said:



Wed, 2009-07-08 09:10

Foreigners asking why people keep re-electing and supporting Silvio Berlusconi should consider how things are seen from a local perspective. Much of the issues here get a distorted media representation - when they get represented. The law that offered immunity to the three highest government offices was passed as a "democracy-protection device". It's like living in a soft version of Orwell's 1984 (or more accurately, in Huxley's Brave New World). For the same reason, people is unaware of the "image problem" that Italy has abroad.
A secondary problem is that people have no memory - at all. We continually forget the broken promises made by politicians, and Berlusconi is very goot at making those (where is the 1M new jobs Berlusconi promised in 1994? where are the tax cuts? where are the higher salaries? ...). When new promises are made, during election times, old ones fade out silently.
Finally, italians are somewhat fascinated by corrupted power. It's like everyone is hoping that some "fat" will percolate down and reach them.

Tony Leavy (not verified) said:



Wed, 2009-07-01 19:21

To me this article, among many, demonstrates the fact that Italy is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Because he is in control of almost all of the Italian media Italy's prime minister seems to be able to get away with such things as changing the law to prevent his being charged with corruption.

By casting himself as an 'international statesman', while at the same time indulging in very public sleaze, Berlusconi is treating his fellow citizens with contempt. To say the least this reflects very badly on all Italians. The fact that they put up with it makes them complicit in the corruption of Italian society. The whole think stinks.

Grazia (not verified) said:



Sat, 2009-07-04 14:31

I fully agree.
I left Italy for over 20 years ago, but witnessing what’s happened to the Country where my partisan grandma daily risked her own life during the Second World War is saddening. My Italian friends tell me about how profoundly ashamed they feel: as if having Mr. Berlusconi as their representative weren’t a bad enough punishment, they also have to put up with the shocking lack of brains and dignity shown by so many of that man’s disciples: prostrated in adoration of their (self appointed) corrupt leader, they persevere in destroying what’s left to destroy in a Country turned into a brothel by a fascist regime and its nostalgic followers.

My gratitude goes to the foreign Press as well as to La Repubblica and to a few Italian journalists such as Mr. Marco Travaglio, for honouring their pledge to keep people informed.

And before some of Mr. Berlusconi’s fans screams blue murder: there are places on Earth where Democracy still rules. Luckily, I live in one of these places, which means I am entitled to express my view.

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