Having
isolated itself from the world, Russia has played the propaganda war badly,
argues polit.ru's editor. Georgia has won it, but that does not make it an aspiring democracy
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I like very much the idea that Boris presents that the concept of sovereign development (democracy?) has been a way of "take the ideology out of politics and move from values to interests", but that this is a recipe for "talking only to ourselves" and that it is therefore unsurprising that Russia should lose the battle of perceptions.
This is a point made clear in Evgeny Morozov's recent Slate article http://www.slate.com/id/2197514/ in which the cyber-battle is taken out of the realm of words and into the realm of physically making information-sources unavailable.
Is this also a result of moving from values to interests? If there are only interests, why talk? why not just do?
well well well...dear Boris do you really believe what you write? Your language is very clear for the rest of the world Now is not it? "to block out Russian media, problems faced by Russian and Armenian citizens" such problems if there are any have any ordinary Georgian citizens too.."the ways the opposition is suppressed " very interesting...what about in your country? Do they always let opposition succeed de coupe? "they also agreed to withdraw Russian troops from the Vaziani and Akhalkalaki military bases. What is more, they kept this promise" yep..they did ..only to occupy totally other bigger parts of the country didn't`t they? " He lied when he said that Russian troops were advancing on Tbilisi with the aim of occupying Georgia and overthrowing his regime"? it seems you are not aware of that interviews your generals and other politicians in your government made and said even on high level meeting in Europe that their plan was to change the regime? How strange!
" propaganda machine is bad" you are sorry..yes you are sorry because what what can your propaganda say? You are invading the country using the ethnic groups to gain the influence over the region that your country is loosing? " In the case of Sudan evidence of genocide really has been documented" you are comparing the cases...hey! Have you eve heard that the genocide of Georgian people in 1991-1992 is also documented? In Apxazia and in Osetian region both...and do not say please that about 300 000 ethnic Georgians from Apxazia and 200 000 from so called South Osetia were exiled only by the forces of local Apxaz or Osetian boeviks...who has been always backing them? Guess..? May I advice you to read the history back to 200 years? What Russian Tzar's imperialism has done in the Caucasus? It all goes with the same script..yes please read it..but try to find the true historical version not the ones in which your country was very good in propaganda! Really there is nothing new under the sun I agree...
Indeed,here is a lot man could say about these things, but ..has it any sense to talk to you or your believers? Who is a demagogue here?
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it the same old western imperialist propaganda of which you are a part of.
The Georgian puppet president is a war-mongering lunatic. You're not fooling anyone.
I like very much the idea that Boris presents that the concept of sovereign development (democracy?) has been a way of "take the ideology out of politics and move from values to interests", but that this is a recipe for "talking only to ourselves" and that it is therefore unsurprising that Russia should lose the battle of perceptions.
This is a point made clear in Evgeny Morozov's recent Slate article http://www.slate.com/id/2197514/ in which the cyber-battle is taken out of the realm of words and into the realm of physically making information-sources unavailable.
Is this also a result of moving from values to interests? If there are only interests, why talk? why not just do?
Tony
well well well...dear Boris do you really believe what you write? Your language is very clear for the rest of the world Now is not it? "to block out Russian media, problems faced by Russian and Armenian citizens" such problems if there are any have any ordinary Georgian citizens too.."the ways the opposition is suppressed " very interesting...what about in your country? Do they always let opposition succeed de coupe? "they also agreed to withdraw Russian troops from the Vaziani and Akhalkalaki military bases. What is more, they kept this promise" yep..they did ..only to occupy totally other bigger parts of the country didn't`t they? " He lied when he said that Russian troops were advancing on Tbilisi with the aim of occupying Georgia and overthrowing his regime"? it seems you are not aware of that interviews your generals and other politicians in your government made and said even on high level meeting in Europe that their plan was to change the regime? How strange!
" propaganda machine is bad" you are sorry..yes you are sorry because what what can your propaganda say? You are invading the country using the ethnic groups to gain the influence over the region that your country is loosing? " In the case of Sudan evidence of genocide really has been documented" you are comparing the cases...hey! Have you eve heard that the genocide of Georgian people in 1991-1992 is also documented? In Apxazia and in Osetian region both...and do not say please that about 300 000 ethnic Georgians from Apxazia and 200 000 from so called South Osetia were exiled only by the forces of local Apxaz or Osetian boeviks...who has been always backing them? Guess..? May I advice you to read the history back to 200 years? What Russian Tzar's imperialism has done in the Caucasus? It all goes with the same script..yes please read it..but try to find the true historical version not the ones in which your country was very good in propaganda! Really there is nothing new under the sun I agree...
Indeed,here is a lot man could say about these things, but ..has it any sense to talk to you or your believers? Who is a demagogue here?
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