Poster of the 15-M movement in Cordoba (Spain). It says: "If you do not let us dream, we will not let you sleep." Toni Castillo Quero/FLickr. Some rights reserved.
Francesc Badia: The book you've just published, " The day after tomorrow. Journey to the Spain of Change", proposes to see the 15M as a framework, as a background on which political change develops. Why is this a new perspective?
Bernardo Gutiérrez: The 15M had been explained as a diagnosis, as a movement, as a challenge to the political system, as a set of practices, as a set of participation methodologies. But now, with the benefit of time and study, we've been able to see that it was a network of people linked by new ways of doing things, of organising themselves in a network. With distance we can see it as a common ground, as a framework that frames the new policy, the new ways of doing politics in Spain, and possibly in the world, because elsewhere there have been similar hatchings.
