A former Welsh leader on why he now backs a second Brexit vote

The former first minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones, tells us why he's changed his mind about holding another referendum on the UK's membership of the EU.

The Depolarization Project
22 March 2019
Carwyn Jones former First Minister of Wales at the 2018 Labour Party annual conference.
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In 1997, the Welsh people narrowly vote to create a Welsh Assembly to devolve powers away from Westminster in a national referendum. For years, the Conservative party had called for a second referendum to overturn the first, which won by just under 7,000 votes, but they were rebuffed.

On the latest episode of Changed My Mind, the former first minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones, talks about how he initially felt that the 2016 Brexit referendum should be final, but eventually came to support the idea of a second vote.

For our post-interview discussion, regular hosts Ali Goldsworthy, Laura Osborne and Alex Chesterfield were joined by Steve Martin, behavioural scientist and best-selling author, and Rob Blackie, one of the UK's top digital strategists. They discuss whether facts alone are enough to change people's minds.

Changed My Mind is produced by openDemocracy in conjunction with The Depolarization Project as part of our commitment to educate citizens, challenge power and encourage democratic debate. Hosted by Ali Goldsworthy, Laura Osborne and Alex Chesterfield. 

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Paolo Gerbaudo Sociologist and political theorist, director of the Centre for Digital Culture at King’s College London and author of ‘The Mask and the Flag: Populism and Global Protest’ and ‘The Digital Party: Political Organisation and Online Democracy’, and of the forthcoming ‘The Great Recoil: Politics After Populism and Pandemic’.

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Spyros A. Sofos Researcher and research coordinator at the Center for Middle Eastern Studies, Lund University and author of ‘Nation and Identity in Contemporary Europe’, ‘Tormented by History’ and ‘Islam in Europe: Public Spaces and Civic Networks'.

Chair: Walid el Houri Researcher, journalist and filmmaker based between Berlin and Beirut. He is partnerships editor at openDemocracy and lead editor of its North Africa, West Asia project.

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