It was the young children themselves who made me change my mind. I took them out to the landscape, they saw the fence and they stopped, and then it was like a comic strip where you see those light bulbs and exclamation signs above their heads. “Oh yeah, that's what dad or that's what Grandma told us about, that's what it looked like”. They have connections or sockets in their minds, where they can plug in later when they are about the age of 12 to 15, and then it pops up inside their mind saying "Oh yes, I heard about that, and I want to learn more." - George Baumert
Alison Goldsworthy
Welcome to change my mind. The podcast where we ask leaders what they've changed their mind on and why. I'm Ali Goldsworthy, Poles Apart co-author and president of accord, the consultancy helping organizations understand and respond to polarization. You've heard from our guest today, Georg Baumert, head of the German borderland Museum's environmental education division. And if you'd like to listen to previous episodes, you can visit openDemocracy, who host all of them on their website. Just search openDemocracy and Change My Mind for more. Before introducing my co-hosts, I want to thank our sponsors, 1014, we'll hear more from them later. So I'm joined for today's episode by my co-hosts and co-authors, Laura Osborne, MDA, UK economics, policy and data insights consultancy.