Dodds also asked Freer to provide a detailed timeline and further information about the “scoping” process that the government argues is required in order to minimise the so-called “unintended consequences” of a trans-inclusive ban.
Freer said he is “disappointed that we have not brought forward a fully inclusive bill”, but hopes that a bill which is “narrow in scope” and “clearly sets out what is and isn’t a conversion practice” would be brought forward in September or October this year. He did not confirm whether this would include protections for trans people.
He added: “It is not unreasonable to take some extra time to try and build that consensus, so that when a bill comes forward, we’re able to make it as inclusive as possible. I can’t guarantee that we’ll get there.”
‘Outcome neutral’ therapy not affected
Nearly four years have passed since the UK government first pledged to outlaw conversion therapy. In October 2021, then equalities minister Liz Truss finally announced plans for a ban.
But on 10 May, Downing Street backtracked, saying its proposed law would only apply to practices relating to sexual orientation, not gender identity.
It will only protect under-18s, and contains loopholes for supposedly ‘consenting’ adults and for non-physical forms of conversion practices – exemptions that leave all LGBT people vulnerable, say campaigners.
A petition for a trans-inclusive ban amassed more than 145,000 signatures, triggering Monday’s Westminster Hall debate. But the government said there were “different considerations when it comes to transgender conversion therapy”. “One of the complexities is that those who experience gender dysphoria may seek talking therapy. It is vital that legitimate support is not inadvertently impacted,” it added.
Freer – who was responding on behalf of the government – repeated: “We do not agree with attempts to change someone’s gender. But we do wish to ensure that any action that we bring forward on transgender conversion practices don’t have wider implications, such as accessing legitimate therapies.”
Yet all the MPs who spoke in support of a trans-inclusive ban pointed out that such a ban would not in itself outlaw explorative discussions and talking therapies that are “outcome-neutral”.
Campaigners want to ban practices that “do not have an open outcome but aim to change what a person is,” said Liberal Democrat MP Wera Hobhouse.
Kirsten Oswald, MP and deputy Westminster leader for the SNP, added: “Banning conversion practices doesn’t criminalise outcome-neutral explorative conversations or therapy. Only practices that have a targeted focus on directing someone towards [what the practitioner deems] a more ‘acceptable’ outcome” should be banned, she said.
Even Freer appeared to concede that trans ‘conversion therapy’ refers specifically to practices “where a person has a predetermined outcome to take that person away from being trans”, rather than the “legitimate therapies” highlighted by the government.
Conversion practices: ‘deeply harmful’ and ‘abusive’
Throughout the debate, MPs shared survivor accounts testifying to the “devastating” and “lifelong, deeply traumatic consequences” of conversion practices.
The government’s own 2018 survey found that trans people are more likely to undergo conversion practices than cis lesbian, gay and bisexual people, Oswald explained. She described conversion practices as “abusive” and “deeply harmful”.
Research carried out last year found half of the gender-diverse participants who had undergone conversion practices said it had worsened “most aspects of their life” including their mental health, and their peer and family relationships, said Hobhouse.
“If the government recognises the harm these cruel and medieval practices are causing to one group of people, why does it exclude the group that is the most harmed?”
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